I know this is a debate, and we know they are 3 different brands, but we want to know do you go for brand or features and this is why we have the debate called “Apple iPhone 3G Vs Samsung i900 Omnia Vs HTC Touch Diamond: Your Choice Is?
All we are going to do is give you the 3 mobile phones specifications and you can comment from there, be interesting to see which one comes out on top. Personally we prefer the Apple iPhone 3G because we use them at the moment and no what to expect from them, we do prefer the look of the HTC Touch Diamond and the Samsung i900 Omnia looks like a great competitor to both of the other handsets, let the specs talk for themselves, please do comment in the area provided below, go on scroll down and have your say.
Apple iPhone 3G Specifications:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 – 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm - 133 grams in weight, 3.5 Inch Touchscreen (16M colors, 320 x 480 pixels) - Multi-touch input method - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off - Ambient light sensor - MP3 & Polyphonic Ringtones - Vibration – Flush 3.5 mm headset jack – Near Enough unlimited entries and fields, Photocall - 100 received, dialed and missed calls (Call records) – 8 & 16GB built in memory – No card slot - GPRS - EDGE - 3G HSDPA - WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g - Bluetooth v2.0 - USB v2.0 - Mac OS X v10.4.10 - SMS, Email - HTML (Safari) Browser - Black(8/16 GB), White (16 GB) - 2 MP Camera, 1600×1200 pixels - A-GPS function - Built-in GPS receiver - Widgets support - Google Maps - PIM including calendar, to-do list - iPod audio/video player - TV output - Photo browser/editor - Voice memo - Integrated handsfree - Standard battery, Li-Ion - Up to 300 Hours Stand-by - Up to 10 Hours Talk time.
Apple iPhone 3G Image:
Samsung i900 Omnia Specifications:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - 112 x 56.9 x 12.5 mm - 127 grams in weight - 3.2 Inch TFT touchscreen (65K colors, 240 x 400 pixels) - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate - Handwriting recognition - MP3 & Polyphonic Ringtones - Vibration – Near enough unlimited entries and fields, Photocall (Phonebook) - Call records Near enough unlimited - 8 GB/16 GB internal memory plus microSD (TransFlash) Card slot up to 16GB - 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM - 624MHz Marvell PXA312 processor - GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps - EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps - 3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps - WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g - Bluetooth v2.0 with A2DP - USB v2.0 - Microsoft Window Mobile 6.1 Professional OS - WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds - SMS, EMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging - Games + Java downloadable - 5 MP Camera (2592х1944 pixels, autofocus, image stabiliser, video, flash; secondary videocall camera) - Built-in GPS receiver - MP3/AAC/AAC+/WMA/OGG/AMR player - Java MIDP 2.0 - FM Radio with RDS - DivX/XviD/WMV/MP4 player – MS Office document viewer - Voice memo - TV Out - Built-in handsfree - Standard battery, Li-Ion 1440 mAh
Samsung i900 Omnia Image:
HTC Touch Diamond Specifications:
2G Network GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900 for Europe/Asia (GSM 850 / 1800 / 1900 for Americas) - 3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900 for Europe/Asia (HSDPA 850 / 1900 for Americas) - 102 x 51 x 11.5 mm - 110 grams in weight - 2.8 Inch TFT touchscreen (65K colors, 480 x 640 pixels) - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate - TouchFLO 3D finger swipe navigation - Touch-sensitive navigation controls - Handwriting recognition - Polyphonic (40 channels), MP3, WAV, WMA Ringtones - Vibration - Phonebook near enough unlimited entries and fields, Photocall - Call records near enough unlimited - 4 GB built in memory - NO card slot - 192 MB DDR SDRAM, 256 MB ROM - Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor - GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps - EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps - 3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps - WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g - Bluetooth v2.0 with A2DP – miniUSB - Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional OS - SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging - WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML Browser - Games – 3.2 MP Camera (2048×1536 pixels, autofocus, video; secondary VGA videocall camera) - Built-in GPS with A-GPS - Stereo FM radio with RDS - Java MIDP 2.0 - Voice memo - Pocket Office(Word, Excel, Outlook, PDF viewer) - MP3 player - Built-in handsfree - Standard battery, Li-Ion 900 mAh - Up to 285 hours standby - Up to 5 hours 30 minutes talk time.
HTC Touch Diamond Image:
So with all the main specs for each of the handsets, what do you think is the best, and what one are you planning on getting? Scroll down you our comments area below and get your answers coming in.
An old samsung fan.Happy to see samsung competing good.Need launch time & rate of i900
Looks like the Samsung for me. My goal is to replace 4 boxes with one; PDA, ‘REAL’ GPS, reasonable camera (I’ll still have my real one, but it may be at home) and Cell Phone. I like the HTC, but 3 MP Camera and no flash or stabilization, along with no card slot, put it in second place. The absence of a REAL PDA on the iPhone wipes it out, as does the 2 MP camera and ‘data’ based GPS (no use at all in the bush and out of Cell range and data in Canada is ridiculously expensive not to mention roaming charges when out of the country - useless). Also, if I start using MP3s, I imagine the iPhone will be tied into iTunes - no thank you. The iPhone does not even get ranked as anything but last.
Price, however, may make me wait a while before getting in.
Short wish list now. Just some optical zoom on the camera, but at least I can crop 5MP a bit.
The Samsung I900 is the obvious winner here. There is no comparison; however, I don’t see the battery life information for the Samsung.
And why compare with the HTC Touch Diamond when HTC has the Touch Pro which has a sliding keyboard and flash on the camera.
Overall, the Samsung i900 is great but I may have to go with the HTC Touch Pro if it hits the states first
When I saw the specs on the Omnia, Iphone just dropped from my radar. The Omnia has everything good from the Iphone (well, almost) with so many additional benefits. A2DP is a dealbreaker for me, the option of upgrading memory up to 32 GB allows me to fit my entire mp3-collection including some movies on there, 5MP beats 2MP anyday, and the list goes on. Phone just seems to get beaten on every important point!
Oh, and the HTC? Too small a screen and too many buttons for me, it’s a halfmeasure between a regular phone and the Iphone (which it tries to mimic). Even if someone gave it to me, I’d sell it and save the money for the Omnia…
definitely the samsung and i currently have a first gen unlocked iphone. 2mp camera is terrible and itunes only is limited. i love samsung when they came with the blackjack. Also, iphone failed to bring A2DP for wireless music play back via bluetooth. Definitely going to sell my unlocked iphone.
This is really a tough choice for me. I already have an ipod so having a big music player is not necissary however i have a direct input in my car and to my stereo at home that works with the input on the bottom of the iphone in case i wanted to use it for that purpose. I like the features of the samsung probably the best, not sure how i like windows mobile though (no experience with it). I also like the styling of the HTC the best and it seems to fit the purpose of an actual phone the best. I really need a great phone with a good internet browser, however the other features are an added bonus. I’ll probably debate over this a little longer for now though with all the high prices. Nice to see the iphone come down to 200 though.
Are you kidding me? Look at the the specs. Samsung is the clear winner.
Definitely Samsung.
The spec for the screen is the only area that it is not the leader. I wander whether there is real difference in display in actual use.
Yes, Samsung has 5MP camera with flash, but screen resolution is awful.
The winners are HTC Touch Pro and Sony-Ericsson Xperia X1 with their 3.2MP flash cameras, qwerty keyboard,256MB RAM,800×480 and 640×480 resolutuions and next generation qualcomm low-power processors. (X1’s talktime is 10h with 1500mh battery)
I agree the Samsung have the best specs., but what about the browser?.
iPhone is the best, HTC will have Opera 9.5. And the Samsung?
The diamond probably has the best interface, but the smallest capacity at 4GB with no expandability. The iPhone is just too “closed” of a system and just lacks things the Omnia has (turn-by-turn GPS navigation, 5 MP camera). I’m not a huge Windows mobile fan, but at least I can write apps for it very easily and don’t need to “jailbreak” the phone.
Omnia for me!
Samsung is the clear winner.
I was so attracted to the Touch diamond (or Pro) when it came out. Yet i just found out its a triband - meaning limited use in the US. I have a HTC quadband Tytn I and i don’t understand why HTC can’t throw in a quadband on Touch Diamond.
Lots of people buying these high ends are frequent travelers and a quadband phone is the ONLY way to go.
Plus the built-in 16gb memory is to die for.
Now only if Samsung throw in a 3x optical zoom…
wat abt the screen guys?? clearly the htc has a better screen… but wat im not sure abt is, how imp is that really??? can u really make out the diff??
It uses opera mini as a browser. Mid June in Southeast Asia. July in Europe(August in Germany). August for rest of the world. Source : Samsung info in ComunicAsia 2008
Pics here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia_announced_live_pics_inside-news-519.php
Iphone is/was a revolutionary device in the industry, and I’m glad to see how samsung learned the lesson, and adopted these new ideas into a more functional, less propietary environment (windows mobile). Software development for windows mobile has been around for a while now, anyone can write an app for it, but it was not heading in a direction where UI was key. Iphone changed that, as of today you can find lot more applications for windows mobile with better GUI’s and with a finger-friendly mentality behind them (which is the case for samsung’s customized UI).
Samsung brings a more attractive, shiny, finger-friendly, intuitive (gui, accelerometer), functional (windows mobile=lots of possibilities) to the table with this new approach. The device itself has better specs as well (5mpx cam, GPS etc), and is not another cheap attempt to copy the revolutionary iphone but instead it has a life of its own.
With the right applications any windows mobile device can offer an iphone-like experience but most WM devices end up lacking compared to the iphone and I personally believe this is the reason:
- the display: in a touch-screen based environment this can make the difference… when combined with the right User Interface.
-Accelerometer: makes the device more intuitive.
The Samsung Omnia is the alternative that can be put face to face against the Iphone without lacking in these 2 aspects.
So in response to the original question:
I like the Samsung Omnia more than the 2 other devices being compared, but the price tag at this point is ridiculous. Iphone seems to have improved that aspect with their upcoming release… nice going.
And NO, I don’t work for samsung, or Microsoft or Apple or any other… Keep in mind this is just my personal opinion and I hope it helped in the comparison process intended.
hey for me i lyk samsung omnia..sure bet..
the costs of the phones r the suspense for nw
I was all for the i900, but not so sure now. My next phone must have a stand alone GPS (among other things, of course), i.e. not network dependent, no data transfer to find where you are - works like a TomTom, Garmin, etc. I have asked Samsung 3 times and they don’t seem to know, or don’t want to tell me. All I get is ‘talk to your service provider’ - same answer 3 times. To me, this seems to mean if the phone can’t find a carrier, you do not have GPS. Not good enough. A deal killer for me. Brian
i want to ask first, samsung and htc use WM6.1 professional for its OS, but why samsung only has document viewer while htc can edit it? is that information true? can somebody explain first before i write my opinion..
thanks
SAMSUNG OMNIA THE WINNER….DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO THE CARRIER(S) IN THE USA WILL BE AND WHEN WILL IT BE INTRODUCED?
Wondering if it’s a bad idea to purchase one of these non-US versions now. I can’t until August.
I recently lost my Nokia N95-3 and now am looking for a replacement. Either the Touch Pro or the Omnia. I found out from an AT&T rep that they will be getting the Omnia but in Q3 (September). If the Touch Pro came with a 5mp camera, I’d buy it on the spot but because it’s a bit of a downgrade I may go with the Omnia. I’m on the fence about getting a non-us version early so I can have it now. I have no idea if a US carrier will get the Touch Pro but it wouldn’t surprise me if Sprint picked it up.
Samsung Omnia is out in Singapore. I bought one today at S$468, and was relieved by the price tag after reading various forum discussions.
I was initially torn between the iphone and the Omnia i900. Since I have a Apple MBP and a PC, the operating system wasn’t an issue.
I thought the Omnia’s technical parameters were a lot better than the iphone too - 16 GB internal memory, 5 megapixel camera. It is so beautiful - light, with a dark metallic surface which leaves no thumbprints, slim enough to slide into jeans pocket inconspicuously. With the relatively affordable price tag, it is a no-brainer which phone to pick.
Daisy, are you in the US? if so, where did you purchase the phone (Samsung Omnia)?
Speed wise, I’d go for Samsung Omnia. It has the same processor of O2 Atom Life. Over-all features, still Samsung Omnia but I am disappointed with 65k TFT colors.
iPhone, nah… just to create a craft fashion statement.
impressed with omnia BUT only 128 ram? and the resolutuon in lower than the diamond and iphones…if they would of added more resolution and more collors like iphones 16 million versus 65k it would of been a perfect phone! guess nothing can be perfect.
1 bought one 5 days ago. absolutely love it. infact I am sending this with it. I was concrned with screen specs. however after using it I have no concern at all. Referring to earlier posts about cannot edit office docs with viewer that comes along,it is not true.
‘Samsung Omnia is out in Singapore. I bought one today at S$468, and was relieved by the price tag after reading various forum discussions. ‘
dude….I am in Singapore.
Daisy:
You really bought that Omnia at S$468, is it under plan or it is the retail SRP?
I bought the Samsung Omnia Last week at SGD$198, the retail price with contract is SGD$598, w/o contract is SGD$1098
I think the phone owns, it has a very polished interface. Only qualms i have are about the music player, there is no search function, and the speaker, it is very soft. However, i have installed a 3rd party player that has a search function. Did i mention that the music player in the phone can play divx and xvid format movies?
There is a complete office mobile suite on the omnia which includes:
1. Word 2k7 (Create/Edit/View)
2. Excel 2k7 (Create/Edit/View)
3. OneNote 2k7 (Create/Edit/View)
4. Powerpoint 2k7 (View)
The omnia works quite fast. Also, there is a haptic response for everytime you touch the screen, gives you the feeling that the UI is responsive.
I did not really like the TouchWiz UI on my today screen, but Samsung provides another today screen plugin which is really cool, I am currently using that.
The camera is very good, it has face detection and smile detection. The flash is really very bright, can be compared to a high quality still camera. There is image stabiliser, autofocus, and many other features which i have yet to try.
Internet browsing is very fast with Opera Mobile, it has a full screen mode.
By the way, has anyone mentioned that it has an Optical Mouse? It is very responsive and fast.
My carrier, Starhub provided me with a Luxury Pack offer. This was only for the first 2 days when the omnia was released. The pack comes with leather case, 2 stylus, TV-out cable and a 3.5mm adapter, extra earbuds, screen protector. Also, the headset is an in-ear, the quality is comparable to Shure’s high-end headphones.
I think that everyone should buy an Omnia, as it is definitely the next big thing, it is going to be a huge sensation. And by the way, who cares about the iPhone or the HTC Touch Diamond. Samsung’s is the new way to go, and why not, it is after all omnia, everything one can wish for in a phone!
Thank you to the President in charge of sales at Samsung for that comment…
(Did you not think anyone would notice that blatent sales talk?)
…I currently have not made up my mind between any of these three. The Diamond has a good size, but is let down by the measly 4GB limited storage and no flash on the camera. I’ve also heard that they’re having problems with the interface.
The iPhone is a classic, but Apple have definitely missed a trick by not including a better camera, flash, front facing camera, multimedia messaging etc… maybe next time Apple will make a much bigger leap? Also not quite sure yet about the usefulness of the GPS in Sat Nav?
Samsung Omnia of course looks like the best machine all round. However, the screen resolution is a real let down, plus the wierd dimensions. In online demos it looks like the screen sensitivity is poor in comparison to the iPhone. Otherwise it does appear to have everything.
The only way to decide whether the Omnia is the true winner is to get it in our hands…
So - a question to the President of Sales who left the last comment; when will we see the i900 Omnia in Europe, or at the very least, the UK?
There’s no comparison between the iphone and the Omnia.
I don’t even think that an iphone is as good as the Samsung Instinct, and the Omnia seems to be a LOT better than the Instinct based on specs… yet my instinct OWNS my friends first gen iphone in every area but storage capacity…
Samsung is the new gold standard in electronics.
The iphone is a joke. The diamond not expandable and average camera. The Samsung for me is the dream gadget. It has it all and is a clear winner. Just cant understand the hype behind the iphone for such a poor device.
Had been using the Omnia for 2 weeks now. Everything seems fine just the occaisional hanging of the system, I have to take out the battery in order to reset it. There’s no hard reset button on the phone itself. But I am still very happy to get this phone. I got this phone for $468 with a 2 year contract with M1 (Singapore).
Another great feature that nobody mention was the Etiquette Pause function. It you turn over the phone (Screen facing downwards) it will automatical muted the ringing tone if there is a incoming call, and when you turn it over (screen facing upwards) the ringing tone starts to ring again. Isin’t it a cool function?
Another downpoint was my screen gets too “white” when I use it directly under the sun which make it quite hard for me to see what on the phone’s screen.
I am glad that it has a internal memory of 16GB. When I told my friend about it, they even asked me 16mb or 16 gb? When I told them it’s 16gb they were all shocked, maybe was because the iphone 3G has still not been lauched yet in Singapore they had not seen such a big storage in a phone before.
There is a hard reset button. It it the tiny pin hole besides the on/off button.
Also, after I disable the power savimg mode and time out turn off, my OMNIA does not hang any more.
1st things 1st … I think the question should be … what’s the best phone for what kind of use?
If u want to have a fancy Mobile device to offer to U’r Girl Friend , probably U’ll chose the IPod.
If u need a working device with a fancy touch, then Omnia will be the choice.
I’m using a Qtek S200 (with external cheap GPS Antena) and a iPAQ for the last 2 years ( I must say great job they did, with an average of 700-1000 min/month conversation each, + WM Apps heavy duty usage, GPS etc…) during the last 6 months, I had an hard time deciding what would be my new choice. Even knowing that it would be an hard job to find decent productivity Apps to iPOD, it was one of my choices… after knowing that instead of a GPS Apple presents us with a GPD (Global Pointing Device), I realized they came with the Same Old Joke “The Proudly Lonely Apple”.
HTC or Samsung?
Well I like HTC and apart from 1 or 2 incidents like TyTen 1, they have offered us Robust and Trusty equipments, even thou I think they committed a terrible mistake being so conservative, in the development of new form factors. By the other side Samsung, invested in Powerful and Ergonomic equipments like i780 and now i900 Omnia.
My choice will be i900 … or maybe i780
Does it browser support Java Applet?
The winner is……
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Samsung i900 omnia.
OMNIA !!!!!!
Samsung Omnia has only 128mb of ram and such a poor screen resolution - too bad to display clear fonts while reading ebooks.
I have imported an omnia from singapore its absolutely fabulous iphone no bluetooth for file transfer rubbish htc limited memory useless ok omnia os is not the easiest to use texting is much easier on the tocco (my previous phone) also text messages are in tiny print so they are not easy to read.
samsung big screen why only use 15% of it to view a text message? screen is hard to see in sunlight my battery only lasts two days (but i am constantly playing with it) those are the downsides but omnia is superb other than a couple of faults but no phone will ever be perfect.
Omnia comes very close to perfect
It looks to me from the spec that Omnia is just going to out perform the other 2 on lots of levels. I’m crazy fussy about which handset I buy and have been out of contract using the same old Sony Ericcson I’ve had for 2 years because nothing has come out that will meet my very challenging requirements including the iPhone 3G and the Touch Diamond.
I’m pretty sure though that I’ll be waiting patiently to get my hands on an Omnia. Does anyone know what networks it’s likely to be available on in the UK. I take it O2 won’t stock it as it’ll shaft their iPhone sales.
o2 is going to carry i900
Well… I am not going to buy any of those… but I like the diamond’s form factor, Iphone’s SW (growth possibility) and the specs of the omnia…
Either way, my choice would go for iphone… I am a “simple mobile” user that likes the contacts and media synced… nothing more, nothing less…
You stand here comparing equipments based on a software platform that has been around for more than 10 years, has it’s licencing and contracting fully worked out (damn…WM can even work as a sonar!!!), comparing it with a platform that has only 6 months “On the open developers market”, and see what it has already accomplished… buggy (
) exclusive software but that has the focus on the right thing… the way the user really uses the application. MY experience using it… ME. I don’t want to store contacts… I want to have fun doing it!
So for my profile of usage I tend to value the integration, looks and experience… I am only making calls, listening to music and keeping my life straight. If I can make these stuff with the same look’n'feel… you already owns me.
My view is you can compare omnia and diamond, but even so the niche they follow is distinct… One is for phone lovers, other is for more advanced stuff.
iPhone is way behind, but it’s only a toddler.
just my 2 cents
has anyone actually tried using a windows mobile device with no stylus? good luck. they are as dodgy as ever and very slow and unstable. if you really think specs can compare to experience you are doing yourself a deservice. Use all three and see which one is actually useful, fun to use and easy to use. I had a windows mobile phone before and i now have the iphone 3g. it is the best thing on the smartphone market thus far. and for those who dont know, it does have real satellite gps and no the mp3s are not tied to itunes. i transferred all my mp3s from my iriver with no issues whatsoever. it is fast, stable, does brilliant multitasking and never needs you to do anything to maintain it other than turn it off and on after an application install. it also has amazing fast chinese language support using the finger and no keyboard. no need to worry about memory management or anything of that nature and everything gets setup in a breeze. dont underestimate the true-color support either - it feels like the smallest computer in the palm of your hands when surfing or watching photos and videos.
I don’t gut you guys.. The Diamond definetly wins!
apple have done a fantastic job in marketing but not in developing the iPhone…bla…bla…bla. 3G without camera on the front is crap!!! To cut the long story short…nayyy…its NO to the iPhone. HTC Diamond? It might be a good Christmas gift…thanks to the FUNtasctic features that comes with it. Children will definitely love it! So…the undisputable winner is non other than OMNIA!!! It is simply elegant and efficient… Beauty and the Brain I should say… Congrats to SAMSUNG!
After installing Windows Mobile Device Center, the touchscreen on I900 stopped working. The device is always on locked mode and I tried pressing all the buttons; even the reset button beside the power button. Nothing worked. Anybody with similar experience.
Definitely the HTC Diamond wich has a great look and features….
Think the Omnia seems to be the best for features and has the better spec.
If people are worried about the browser, no need to worry as both the HTC & Omnia are windows mobile devices so software from one can be put on to the other. Opera Browser can be located free on the internet.
Omnia also has a card slot and a 5MP camera, so the rest seem to be left trailing.
For me its a no brainer, Omnia all the way
A few people are voting for the Diamond, but a warning to them, looks may be decieving as many people have complained about the sluggishness of it as well as a few other problems.
Personally Samsung wins, but I may wait for the Touch pro to be released and compare it with the Omnia!
Omnia baby
Camera = 5MP with FLASH!
A-GPS
Better battery life.
Removable memory.
unlocked phones already available.
Will work in Asia, Europe, and USA for those world travelers - MUI language pack available for OS.
Customizable interface.
You can write computer programs with Omnia!
A2DP
And a whopping 7.2Mbps
Come on guys, do the math. Where all the geeks at?
OMNIA
I have used WM without stylus. t was not designed to be used that way, but it is possiblem. The stylus is very useful when using Office applications. WM was built for work, not to show off..
I would never buy iPhone, it is a closed system. Besides, I read it is very sensible to humidity. Can anyone confirm?
With OMNIA when I use the GPS Imust be connecte to the internet?
Omnia’s got a built-in GPS receiver so you must not be connected to use it. It behaves just like any other GPS system.
You must, however, be connected to use A-GPS - it uses internet to help locate when GPS signal is weak (eg. in town between high buildings).
Come on people…. Read the specs properly. The samsung does.nt have only 8gb of internal memory it actually has 16gb. I know this as i work for a major operator in the uk and we actually get to play with the lovely toys before they are released to the market. But out of all the samsung wins hands down. Purely because of the reason out of the three of them it plays divx movies hence doing away with the need to carry a mp4 player.
I have a touch diamond and was very dissapointed with it’s performance, however I have installed the new Rom upgrade and now the device flys along and is very stable, as for the camera, I had a G600 samsung and a D900 and always found the cameras to be laggy, blurry and generally poor quality. The diamonds pictures are very clear and crisp.
To add to my previous comment, the rom update also makes the handset quad band for usa use to.
I have had my Omnia for 2 weeks now - it is everything promised and more. Excellent reception, stable performance and packed with features. It easily blows away a colleagues iphone on photos, email and general phone use. The new touch interface is quick and responsive. Battery life seems to be good (but will tend to settle over the first few charge cycles so I can’t be sure yet). I haven’t used a diamond so can’t comment on that but the screen size meant that diamond wasn’t suitable for me.
BTW I use an imac at home and Windows pcs and Apple computers at work so have no particular platform bias - I just want something that does everything for a sensible price.
O2 has got Omnia.
I called them today 2 upgrade my contract.
They offered me but hell, it’s with the same tarrif as Iphone3G. But O2 said they might drop the price down in few weeks.
Let’s c. But I liked da phone comapred 2 truely overrated Iphone3G whose limitation is countless.
HTC diamond is very cool but again restricted by memory and bit small for such functions.
No second thoughts on this, Samsung is the clear winner over here ! It has more features packed in with style !
BTW, does anyone know that I-phone has a feature which lets u play ur music, stored on phone, on CAR stereo as well on any frequency of your choice ?? Does Omnia also has the same feature ?
I love iphone 3g but OMNIA has everything i want.
Am still deciding whether iPhone or Omnia. No HTC here in the Philippines. Am leaning towards Omnia due to the fact that i think there is NO VIDEO RECORDING on the iPhone and only 2megapix camera. How can it be a multimedia phone when you cannot even send pics from iPhone? I think the choice of which phone to get depends on the users preference thus i have to rule out iPhone for now…
Having purchased an Iphone 3G last month I can quite honestly say I’m glad it broke. It was a pleasure to use, but the touch screen texting was a pain. Downside was GPS software was pointless as a satnav, no MMS and poor Camera.
Rather than get another Iphone I opted for an Omnia, which I’ve now had for a couple of days.
Plus side - looks cool, lots of apps and it’s easy to use….
Downside - cheap build quality, GPS not compatible with TOMTOM, poor response from on screen typing and the camera quality is more like 3 Mega pixel.
I have contacted TOMTOM directly and they can give no dates for the Com port problem, so it’s useless as a SATNAV for me.
The camera quality compared to a Viewty is quite poor, but hopefully they can fix this with a ROM.
They should have built the stylus into the phone, it looks bloody stupid hanging of the side and you really do need it to text.
The Samsung Onscreen keyboard takes up almost the entire screen, so you end up using the stylus which looks like an after thought.
No cover or case….grrrrr
A great Phone with poor design, can I live with it???
I’ll tell you after the weekend….
The Diamond Touch Pro - looks cool, the GPS works with TOMTOM and the camera takes a good clean photo. But does the Touch Flow still run like a dog?
For App lovers - Omnia
For Trendy bods - Iphone
For Coolness - Diamond Touch Pro
But I’m still not sure on the Omnia, maybe if TOMTOM worked and it had a stylus onboard I would be happy. Try one out, before you hype it though….
So come on, is the TOUCH PRO any faster with it’s FLOW stuff ???? Should I swap my Omnia for one ???
“BTW, does anyone know that I-phone has a feature which lets u play ur music, stored on phone, on CAR stereo as well on any frequency of your choice ?? Does Omnia also has the same feature ?”
This feature is useless… Usually the radio spectrum is too busy and you can’t find a free frequency. You get lots of interference from radio stations. If you want to play the stored music on car stereo the best bet is bluetooth - if your car stereo has it.
Has anyone tried it?
i900 sure is interesting. Its poor reliability & ill-informed website however is a matter of concern.
I have a HTC Diamond, with the rom upgrade the tough-flo is very fast and smooth. I hated the diamond before and wanted the Omnia, but now the diamond is quick to use and the Omnia can’t use Tomtom I think I’ll stick with the HTC. (you will notice that at no point did I even consider the iphone)
I’ve now spent the weekend trying to setup Tom Tom on my Omnia and finaly found version 7.45 works. You have to change a few setting and the sat lock is still very hit and miss. Had a play with a touch pro and Tom Tom worked perfectly.
I’ve got one day left to send it back, so tomorrow will be the decider.
i like the i900 ment to get upgrade thats the 1 i will be looking for its got everything i would want in fone, gooooooooooooo samsung!!!
vote for samsung..
HTC too small screen for my finger n it can’t view in landscape except picture n internal browser..
NO GPS software need to buy except samsung..
iphone is basically for internet surfing, not fit as a mobile phone
You gotta be kidding me… Finaly tried the Omnia Phone hands on and that thing “sucks”… It’s pretty, has the best hardware but the interface/user experience is just butt ugly… and talk about hiting the X on the top right corner with your finger (didn’t miss that from my Dell X5 times)… It drove me mad!!! Me and an older lady who was besides me and got pissed sad.. she really wanted a omnia, but after trying it, she gave up… She didn’t care for the specs… she wanted a really good user experience for some pretty common stuff… After trying the omnia we went on to the iphone and she bought it… right in front of me!
She was a blackberry user… and she wasn’t pretty ;p
I borrowed an Omnia for a day last week; today, I managed to borrow an iPhone.
Conclusions:
- Omnia is a better phone, easier to use and carry around un your pocket;
- iPhone’s multi touch is fine, but it doesn’t make the difference for me;
- iPhone’s Google Maps is a joke.
I wrote this before, and this experience confirmed: Omnia was made for work, iPhone for show-off. Of course, Applemaniacs will desagree..
so…can you use tom tom with the omnia or not? im really thinking of getting the omnia..but only if i can use some kind of satnav on it..for example, garmin, tom tom or navman…also..does the internet browser come in built (the opera one) or does tht have to be downloaded…? can someone give me honest advice please…in my opninion and from what ive read the omnia is leading at the moment? is this true?
Regarding what Brian said –June 20th, 2008 | 2:53 pm– does anyone, of those who have already worked with the Omnia, know if the GPS works without network conecction ¿?
I am a proud owner of the Samsung i900 Ominia, it has Opera and Internet Explorer built-in, the camera is ace, texting needs a little to get used to. If you are looking to buy a phone mainly for texting, look else where. The i900 is more of a PDA with Windows Mobile 6.1 than a phone. I have not tried using GPS yet, but the function is there, according to the instructions, it has turn by turn directions, however, I think the map details will have to be downloaded from the net when you are using it. Touch screen is a nice feature on the i900, there is also a mouse pointer operate by using an optical mouse pad between the two keys at the bottom. There are all sorts of other functions which will keep me occupied for hours. I’ve looked at the iPhone, but I prefer the Samsung i900 as it has far better spec.
At what FPS does omnia and htc diamond records video??
Rafa, Omnia’s GPS works without network connection; however, not all carriers sell it with navigation software installed. If that’s the case with your carrier, you must obtain a WM compatible software and install it. Some versions of Tomtom seem to have problems with Omnia - I think Tomtom will fix it soon.
Karim, the software you get with Omnia depends on the carrier. I think Internet Explorer is allways present but I’m not sure about Opera. You can use satnav on it but, depending on your carrier, the software may not be installed when you buy the phone (see my answer to Rafa above).
Carlos, what is ‘WM compatible software’. What does the WM mean?
I tested it in a shop and it was impressive. although 16gb isnt out yet unless u go with orange
i cant go orange (not where i liv)
but when it comes out for all telecoms i will be able tog et it for £150 (16GB) woot and waaaay to u noobs!
(i think october time for non-branded release so good for my bday!)
Brian, Windows Mobile…
Tested It: tested what? iPhone, Omnia, HTC, all three?
I’m using omnia for couple of months now i love the features and its design, the camera and the hefty memory are the best, my only comment is I can’t see the display if i’m in bright (sun)light.
As i am almost ouside during the day … i need somthing else …. I am buying iphone tonite.
i am getting omnia soon on upgrade phones4u said that the phone does’t rotate but i checked on 1 website and they said it does!!!! can some tell me if it does and can you use the internet rotated as well??
The Samsung i900 has accelerometer, same as the iPhone. When you turn the phone sideways, the screen changes the same way as the iPhone.
Wouldn’t it be better if you put the information in a table form?
jez, I don´t think you’ll be much better with iPhone. Have you adjusted backlighting?
so when you go on the net the screen can go big???
Uzma, i900 comes with IE and Opera, IE displays a whole page without the ability to resize (I’ve not found a way to resize anyway!), Opera is a far better browser because it resize the page and it tries to fit as much as possible to the screen, you can resize what you see on the screen by using a slide bar (this is normally hidden) on the right side of the screen or double tap the area you want to resize, once it is resized, you can move around the page with you finger by sliding it across the screen, very much like the iPhone.
I bought an HTC Touch Diamond last week in the UK to replace my TyTN II, which is just too heavy. The display is unbelievably sharp, the PDA is quick and the 4GB storage is enough for me. HOWEVER, I’m taking it back tomorrow. Why? Because the stylus scratches the screen! This is terribly poor design from a company so experienced at producing touchscreen devices. After reading the comments above, maybe I’ll try the Samsung i900…
Further to my comment above, IE does have a zoom level which you can set when viewing webpages, it’s hidden in the menu, levels are largest, larger, default, smaller and smallest, so the built-in Opera is a better browser (for now). I have also tried playing the GPS, but only got a screen telling me Vodafone is still developing the software, I’m not worried about this because I have a seperate GPS unit.
Martin, have you tried a screen protector? You will loose some shapness but your screen will be protected. I don’t know if you can buy it made for the HTC, maybe you’ll have to adapt one. It won’t be very beutifull, but if you are happy with your device maybe it is good trade-off… Bear in mind that stylus scratches screens - allways. Some more, some less, but you have a hard point pressed against a soft film… it may be very noticeable or not, but in the long run the result is allways a scratched screen!
Ken, you can install any GPS software. You don’t have to wait for Vodafone. Vodafone’s software probably will work only with network connection. (Their business is communication - they’ll make you spend money on their services!)
Thanks Carlos, I’ll try out the TomTom software and update accordingly.
Ken, apparently some TomTom versions don’t get along very well with Omnia. Version 7.45 seems to be allright, though.
People I have been considering all three phones’s for my next upgarde here in the UK (which is toorrow - My God what a long 18 months that was!!!)
I currently have an HTC Orbit (we call it the XDA Orbit) and I love it!!!!
I’ve tested the HTC DIamond, initially I liked it - a lot! Unfotunately, I am a heavy user, and teh Touch Diamond crasehed 4 times in the shop while I “tested” it. It’s not the greatest for multi - tasking.
3.2 MP is also a bummer compared to the Omnia’s 5MP.
I went for the iphone next. I have been a bit of a critic of the iphone. I don’t like the fact that I have to use itunes to manage my music. And it’s 2MP. Almost all my friends have the iphone and honestly it’s nothing special! I asked my manager at work, who had the same phone as me “How is it in terms of PDA usage” he said the iphone’s great but not the best to organise yourself with!!!
I use notes a lot on the Windows Mobile, so that’s another selling point that takes me to the Omnia.
I am very impressed to see “Real” internet on the Omnia, which the iphone used to have a monopoly claim to.
The iphone GPS is rubbish too. I use my GPS on my current HTC Orbit a lot (I use Co-pilot on mine). I’ve got a Tom Tom at home sitting there!!! The GPS on this is fantastic, but the Omnia is better, giving you pinpoint navigation, GPS imaging, foot navigation as well as car! Can you get better than that!! Try and beat that iphone. I’ve made my mind up!!! Omnia here I come.
BTW I have never had a Samsung phone before, I’ve always hated them, therefore it has taken a lot of consideration to let a Samsung drive me to this opinion!!!!!!!
To Carlos, adjusting backlight in Omnia, helps a bit. Thanks.
To uzma khan, to set auto rotate for Omnia — on the main menu .. 1) go to Settiengs — > 2) go to System tab — > 3) Click on Motion Sensor — > 4) make sure your Auto orientation set to ‘Automatic’
I got the iphone 2 days back, i have not done the jailbreak yet, i think i will go back to my omnia for the time being, I still love that phone :o)
What i dont like (so far) on iphone :
1) NO copy and paste
2) NO video call capability as there are no camera in front (unlike omnia)
3) No SMS forwarding
Maybe some 3rd party apps out there can help on above issue?
4) bluetooth function via earpiece only. I can’t send-receive ng contacts/files via bluetooth.
5) Battery life 1-day. At least in my omnia it takes 2 days to fully flat my batt.
let’s see after jailbreaking …
Jez has just pointed out some other reasons I failed to mention why I do not favour the iphone.
As good as the SMS conversation view is, not having the ability to forward SMS is terrible.
Copy and paste is a no no on the iphone.
And bluetooth is only for connecting to other devices and ear pieces, not ofr music etc (for copyright purposes!)
“Maybe some 3rd party apps out there can help on above issue?” jez
Maybe, but you have to jailbreak the damn thing first
- or pay Apple for the 3rd party apps.
Even if iPhone was the 8th wonder of the modern world, this feature alone would prevent me from buying it. Why can’t I use something I bought the way I want it? There are lots of free apps for WM; I can use them if I want without paying Microsoft for it or having to hack the device.
If they could, Apple would take your money and keep the hardware!
to jez!! thanks for that i have’nt got it yet but il have it by next week & then il do what you said!!!! thank you
i just got my new omnia…the problem is my memory is always full so i always need to go to task manager and delete application and copy all my files to my storage card..how will i do it automatically to save it under my storage card??? ..hmmm maybe i need to learn more…besides, they say omnia got 8-16gb but when i check my memory only arounds MB??? what is that???
I’ve been ready pages & pages for weeks on iphone, BB bold & Onia i900 and hadn’t got confident enough to commit to a long term contract. Reading your comments I think my gut feel of the Omnia with windows 6.1 was right. I am surprised at how little the Omnia has featured in press compared to iphone & bold!!
there are many softwares available which can make u r windows mobile touchflo like htc or samsung and throuch voice commands u can also rotate u r screen .
so there is no need to buy htc or omnia just because they have touchflo and auto rotate facilites
Guys,
Till now I have not done the jail breaking on my iphone as I heard the warranty will be void if I have done so.
Do you have any comment?
.. This iphone is useless! (At least for me)..
Hello All, After lot of comparing I am leaning towards buying an Omnia. Anyone using Omnia with T-Mobile (Internet and Email)? I would appreciate it if you can share your experiences, primarily browsing speed and email usage. I currently use Blackberry Pearl. Thanks.
Paul, Did you end up keeping Omnia phone? Thanks. Sam
Jez, Apple invested a lot of effort to get people to buy software from their shop, they won’t let go easily. You have 3 possibilities:
- Smile and make other people think you are terribly happy with iPhone - I think a lot of users are doing this!
- Sell it
- Jailbreak the damn thing. If it is useless to you now, you won’t regret if it goes wrong and Apple doesn’t fix it for free; at least you’ll use it for some time.
Just my 2p…
Hey GUys,
Sorry if someone has already said this.
I have an iphone and a omnia sitting in front of me now, and i am going to buy the omnia when it gets released 100% now (yay only 3 more weeks) as the camera function is a big thing for me (i currently have a n98gb, the fact you can use it for external storage is great and not locked into any itunes
the other main selling points (for me) are:
Iphone: 2mp camera, no auto focus no video and no picture messaging.
Samsung: 5mp camera, video support, picture messaging support “real” gps.
Now the only reason i was even considering the iphone was because of a few small (really cool) features.
IPHONE: lots of fun little games like popping bubble wrap and the big one is being able to hold it up to a radio and it tells you what song is playing and gives you a link to buy it from itunes (i just think thats a wicked feature)
SAmsung: already making their own features and programs that will beat the iphones or at the least match it.
O thats all i got, hope this was helpful in my sleep deprived state
night.
@greg W.
Notice who sponsors all those magazines and articles (ITUNES, APPLE)
haha samsung just sits back and hopes people will make the right choice….
GO FOR the samsung great option you wont regret it and easy to install 10000+ apps on windows mobile….
what I like the most is Samsong provides a lot more codecs than iphone. I can see Dvix, with no encording.
omnia has bad resulotioun 200X420 and some programs will not work or we cant abel to see all of the scene.
diamond has a bad battary 900mAh is not enoughe for a day…
iphone is allready out of competition ..
after alot of research i made my mind to buy Omnia,i have ordered one today on t-mobile Uk and they gona posting it tomorow,will let you knw my uk frenz as soon i get my package.
I would like to know whether the Omnia can work as a modem, so that you can connect your laptop to internet through the mobile connection… I mean with one carrier contract you can use both the phone and the laptop wherever you want…
rafa!!!!!!!!! thats & good qs i would lyk 2 know that as well is that possible ??????
Rafa, I didn’t try it but I think it is possible. In fact, it should be possible with any mobile phone. 2 years ago I used an SE T610 to connect my laptop to the internet. I used bluetooth to link laptop and phone. Possible problems:
- your laptop bluetooth software doesn’t recognize Omnia’s modem
- your carrier doesn’t allow it
Can we hear from someone who has already tried it?
Rafa, i have XPS-M1330, with bluetooth connection, it connects and pairs with it as a modem, (Also connection via Activesync). Used the net for a bit now, without a single problem.
Since i only got the i900 recently, i’ll keep using it for a week before giving some feedback. I’m trialing it in Sydney Australia.
hey guys, thanks for helping me make up my mind. im buying omnia. in fact im going to get one as soon as the shop opens today.
why would anyone want iphone wen you cant send picture msg.
screen much to small on diamond for my likeing.
no doubt about it its omnia for me.
@Carlos, thanks for the advice. I took other option… gave it to my younger brother … he said it is much good looking than his old phone (Nokia N70)…. hehehehe
He decided to jailbreak it anyway.
@Huso, Yes iphone has slight bigger resolution.
For Omnia, It is only a matter of choosing correct resolution when downloading application.
@ALL,
I love OMNIA.
Why? (again) Because IPHONE:
1) NO copy and paste capability.
NO TV out.
2) NO video call capability as there is no camera in front
3) No SMS forwarding
4) Bluetooth function via earpiece only. I cannot send-receive contacts/files via Bluetooth.
5) Battery life less than a day.
6) No voice dialing
7) No voice Recording
9) 2-mega pixel camera?
10) ….
Hello All, I bought an OMNIA this Friday and returned it on Monday. You will probably like the phone if you are windows fan. You really cannot compare this with an iPhone. iPhone usability is in a different league. I had problems with the phone to get turned off after a minute if unused. I set it up, but it never worked. To use the headset, you need to use a connected because we cannot plug the headset right to the phone. I found the phone not user friendly. If you buy make sure you buy it from a place where you can return the phone after couple of days of use. Again, if you are used to the Microsoft Mobile apps, you will end up liking it. I am a blackberry user, going back to my BB.
Sam, was your unit faulty? I had a brief experience with an Omnia, as I wrote some days ago, and I didn’t have any of those problems.
IF your a bald jew this is the samsung is the phone for you. It goes well with a fake D&G coat and your bent conk.
Regards
Gerald
How bad is the omnia screen/resolution/colour depth? Does it really affect images and applications/text that badly? Also I see on alot of the video reviews the omnia is laggy and doesnt always seem to respond too well to finger touches on the screen? Where as the iPhone seems almost flawless in response to use imputs.
Reply to carlos - I guess my phone needed a software upgrade. I was expecting the phone to perform a bit better, so I was clearly disappointed. Very very hard to see the screen when you are outside in sunlight. Very hard to read websites. Everyone is comparing the touch screen experience to iPhone. Omnia don’t even come close… agree there are lot of other features.
Outside in sunlight all screens are hard to see… you can adjust the backlighting, but it won’t make a huge difference. Easy to see in sunlight are the old black and white screens - or better still, black and green or black and blue!
Finger touches on the screen: iPhone is good, Omnia is usable. Every WM device is usable with fingers, but the response is not very good. WM was developed to use a stylus.
In the end, it all comes to what do you want to do. iPhone is flashier, has a great marketing effort behind, is fashionable and probably a better multimedia device. Omnia is a better work tool.
I have both the iphone 3g and the HTC touch pro. In my opinion Iphone won with the looks, user interface, and hmm…. other than that nothing. The HTC Raphael(Touch Pro) in the other hand is better due to the keyboard, camera, full 3rd party application support and heaps of other stuff. I installed tomtom in my touch pro and I can do remote desktop with it. It’s true you can remote desktop with the iphone but it’s really crap because there is no keyboard support and even if the Iphone already supports 3rd party software you can only get the good ones if you pay. But with windows mobile devices there are already heaps of applications you can choose from.
So Obvious Competition. SAMSUNG OMNIA. PERIOD.
CK how do you set up the Omnia to work as a modem? And how do you connect both the laptop and the mobile, just switching on the bluetooth in the devices? Can you recieve incoming calls when working as a modem?
Shall we talk about the HTC Touch HD instead of the Diamond…
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2424&idPhone1=2525
CK how do you set up the Omnia to work as a modem? And how do you connect both the laptop and the mobile, just switching on the bluetooth in the devices? Can you recieve incoming calls when working as a modem ¿?
Hey Y’all, I’m not a techie and would like to buy the Samsung. My question is, “can it work/sink with a Mac Book Pro”, if not I will probably be forced to buy the lesser of the two (iphone) so I can work more efficiently. Or if somebody else has other recommendations I’m all ears, thanks for your support!
Cheers,
Tim, Ralph, I’ve tried Omnia but I don’t have one; I can’t be very specific about how you connect Omnia, but I’ll give some general guidelines.
1 turn Bluetooth on (PC and phone)
2 make tne phone discoverable
3 open Bluetooth control panel in your PC (usually you can do that by double clicking the Bluetooth symbol)
4 Make your PC look for new devices; it’ll find Omnia and connect with it (probably you’ll have to insert a password in your PC and in Omnia)
5 Your PC will try to find available services in Omnia. It’ll find the modem and install it.
6 Your SIM card probably has all the info the PC needs to use it as a modem; if it doesn’t, you’ll have to ask your carrier.
Tecktyro8, I don’t know if Omnia can wrk with a Mac; iPhone doesn’t work well with Windows. Try before you buy even if you buy iPhone.
Of course I could recommend you to swap your Mac for a PC and buy Omnia!
Hey Carlos,
Thanks for your timely feedback, it is greatly appreciated! I will take your advice and see if the stores in Asia will allow me to try a phone with my laptop on the spot, probably not but worth a try, thanks!
Cheers,
P.S. had a mac in 92 but it was to limited in terms of not having PC compatible software. Went 14 years with a PC and just switched back to a Mac. Will never look back, been the best most computer stress free two years of my life and I’m lovin it, thanks again!
hi all i am a iranian boy in my country iphon is very expensive and gprs mms html not work whit our emolator and we cant use this technologi so camera and memori and blutooth but bluthooth of iphon dont work in my country so is better for me to use the omnia
i think omnia is better than the other
After reading all this comments I am totaly confused. I intend to buy a new phone and it seems to me that Omnia has the best specs. I am from Europe (Serbia) and I am more familiar with Windows than Apple. Is Omnia best choice for me?
to rafa and Uzma
well difintly omnia workin as a modem through internet sharing,i use mine daily n its working perfect good for browsing and downloading as well not for streaming..
i m on t-mobile with unlimited internet and its working fine for me..
althou Omnia is a nice fone….i love it.
to tim and ralph
i dont knw how to connect it as modem through bluetooth but u can connect it through usb cable,
connect your fone with your laptop with usb cable
go to your programes, click on internet sharing,
in PC connection option:
select USB
and in the network connection:
select your network provider internet connection
and click connect thats it..
cheers
Well, at first i was thinking of iPhone 3G, but it seems samsung is overwhelming in comparing. Well, the iphone does have a much better physical appearence.
Tecktyro8, people usually work best with the hardware they like… Good luck to you and your Mac! In Europe we have a period to decide to keep things we buy - some stores accept things back up to 15 days after you buy and give your money back no questions asked. Can’t you find something like that where you live?
Momir, if you are familiar with Windows you’ll probablly feel at home with Omnia. However, try before you buy if you can!
iTruth, where did you find so many physical differences? You can say that one looks better than the other, but “much better”?
Heyee you’ll, omnia rocks.
Omnia is offered with germin GPS nevigation subscription for life in suth africa, that alone makes it a no brainer choice in my oppinion. 5MP, 7.2Mbps and expandable strage. Is the an app to make it work faster thou?
omnia is great got mine last week and love it to bits but you have to pay through the nose for the internet/browsing. iphone has free browsing so got to weigh that up!!!!! and the omnia has a few annouying bits, the phone book beibg one of them!!!!!!argh
I’m also thinking which should I buy iPhone 3G or Samsung Omnia.
The question is -
To use GPS on iPhone it require internet connection. Is it possible to install GPS software on iPhone and then not use internet connection?
elliott, costs are not due to the device, they are set by carriers.
At least you can sinchronize Omnia’s phone book with a PC easily - you can’t say the same about iPnone.
I was thinking about getting the iPhone, but when I heard it uses Google maps I flipped. South africa’s maps need an urgent update. OMNIA! OMNIA!